#10. Genesis 17:19.......The Seed of Isaac.......Romans. 9:7 and #11. Genesis 21:12 …Seed of Isaac…Romans 9:7, Hebrews 11:18
This is yet another supposed prophecy about Jesus in the T'nach (Jewish bible) that is not a messianic prophecy at all. Most Jews are descended from Abraham through his son Isaac and then through Isaac's son Jacob. I say "most" Jews are descended from those three men because a person who converts to Judaism is considered as Jewish as one born Jewish, so there are Jews who are not physically from Abraham, from Isaac and from Jacob.
Basically all B'reshit / Genesis 17:19 is says is “G-d said, 'Still, your wife Sarah will give birth to a son. You must name him Isaac. I will keep My covenant with him as an eternal treaty, for his descendants after him.” Genesis (B’rsheit) 17:19
compare the supposed "prophecy" with its counterpart in the Christian bible:
“Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” Romans 9:7 (NIV translation).
Yet again we have a supposed prophecy in the Jewish bible that does not equal the Christian bible reference. Genesis (B’rsheit) 17:19 clearly says that G-d has made an ETERNAL treaty for the descendants of Isaac. Yet missionaries say that Christians are “grafted in” and replace the ETERNAL covenant G-d speaks of in Genesis (B’rsheit) 17:19!
What of B'reshit / Genesis 21:12? It is simply stating that Abraham's son Isaac will be his descendant, the inheritor of the covenant (rather than Abraham's son Ishmael). "And G-d said to Abraham, "Be not displeased concerning the lad (Ishmael) and concerning your handmaid (Hagar); whatever Sarah tells you, hearken to her voice, for in Isaac will be called your seed."
Romans 9:7 may not make the claim that Christians "inherit" the covenant and replace the Jews -- but the very next line (lie) does make this claim: "In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are G-d’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring." Romans 9:8
How does the anonymous author of Romans 9 jump from Isaac's descendants having an ETERNAL promise from G-d to saying that "no they don't, anyone who wants to claim they are "children of the promise" (whatever THAT means) are instead.? What happened to "do not add to or subtract from" the Torah (Devarim / Deuteronomy 4:2)? The author of Romans is totally reversing the true statement in Genesis 17:19!
How does one "fulfill" a prophecy from the T'nach by REVERSING it?
. . . And what does this total reversal of Genesis / B'reshit 17:19 have to do with Jesus being the messiah? How is the promise to Abraham about Isaac inheriting the ETERNAL covenant have anything to do with Jesus being the messiah? Not a darn thing!
B'reshit / Genesis 17:19 is simply stating that Sarah, Abraham’s wife, will give birth to a son they will name Isaac – and Isaac will inherit the covenant G-d made with Abraham. Very clear. It is not messianic – it has to do with G-d’s contract with Isaac and his descendants (as it clearly states).
Romans 9:7-8 is a total mis-use of Genesis 17:19 and an attempt by the author to hijack the covenant from the Jews (in direct contrast to what is said in Genesis 17:19). Romans 9 says that the Jews have been rejected and the Christians are somehow the rightful inheritors of the Jewish covenant because of the seed of Isaac. This makes no sense – given that time and again the Jewish bible makes it clear that the covenant G-d has made with the Jews – first with Abraham, then with Isaac, then with Jacob, then with all Jews at Mount Sinai is ETERNAL. This covenant will be renewed in the messianic age – but even the prophet Jeremiah (chapter 31) makes it clear that the covenant is STILL with the Jews (Judah and Israel).
Read Christian commentaries on Romans 9:7. Matthew Henry for example says "The rejection of the Jews by the gospel dispensation, did not break G-d's promise to the patriarchs.."
Not only is this the OPPOSITE of G-d's promise to Abraham (breaking G-d's promise to the patriarchs whatever Henry says) -- but it also ignores the many, many promises by G-d in the T'nach that He will never reject the Jews. Vayikra / Leviticus 26:44 "Yet in spite of this, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them or abhor them so as to destroy them completely, breaking my covenant with them. I am the L-RD their G-d."
1 Shmuel 12:22 / 1 Samuel 12:22: "For the sake of his great name the L-RD will not reject his people, because the L-RD was pleased to make you his own."
T'hillim / Psalm 94:14 "For the L-RD will not reject his people; he will never forsake his inheritance."
It is a fundamental principle of Judaism that the Torah received at Sinai will never be changed nor become obsolete. This concept is mentioned in the Torah no less than 24 times, with the words:
"This is an eternal law for all generations" (Exodus 12:14, 12:17, 12:43, 27:21, 28:43, Leviticus 3:17, 7:36, 10:9, 16:29, 16:31, 16:34, 17:7, 23:14, 23:21, 23:31, 23:41, 24:3, Numbers 10:8, 15:15, 19:10, 19:21, 18:23, 35:29, Deuteronomy 29:28). The anonymous author of Romans (Paul?) may lie all he likes – but G-d has made it clear that this attempt at hijacking the covenant is untrue.
One wonders, upon reading these missionary lists of 365, 300, 60, etc. "prophecies" about Jesus in the T'anch how many people ever bother to go back and check the quotes in the T'nach? Every single one of these "prophecies" fall apart upon examination. While it is true that many Jews desert Judaism (from those who followed Ba'al or Molloch in the T'nach to Jews who convert to Christianity) G-d made it clear that there is a righteous remnant who will always be faithful to Him -- and He will never reject the Jews.
"When you have children and grandchildren, and have been established in the land for a long time, you might become decadent and make a statue of some image, committing an evil act in the eyes of G-d your L-rd and making Him angry. I call heaven and earth as witnesses for you today that you will then quickly perish from the land that you are crossing the Jordan to occupy. You will not remain there very long, since you will be utterly destroyed. G-d will then scatter you among the nations, and only a small number will remain among the nations to which G-d will lead you. There you will serve gods that men have made out of wood and stone, which cannot see, hear, eat or smell. Then you will begin to seek G-d your L-rd, and if you pursue Him with all your heart and soul, you will eventually find Him. When you are in distress and all these things have happened to you, you will finally return to G-d your L-rd and obey Him. G-d your L-rd is a merciful Power, and He will not abandon you or destroy you; He will not forget the oath He made upholding your fathers' covenant.." D'varim / Deuteronomy 4:25-33.
Those Jews who leave Judaism (and do not return to Him) are cut off (כרת / kareit) from G-d and the Jewish people and while they remain a Jew, they are no longer "Jewish." The fact that most have children with non-Jewish women indeed permanently cuts their lines off from the covenant (unless some of those non-Jewish children later convert to Judaism).